Earl Douglas Looks Back at The Ron and Fez Show


On the first day arrived in New York to go on air at WNEW in February 2000, Earl Douglas was there.  He later would become executive producer for the show, January of 2009 when he resigned on air.  He spent nine years producing for the show and would become a giant part of the story.  Now with the story coming to a close, Earl shares his thoughts.

Like many people, when I went on The IBang and saw the headline that was retiring, I thought it was an April Fool’s joke. I was thinking to myself that I just saw the guys a few days ago, shaved Fezzie’s head to close out a bet, and it couldn’t possibly be true. But the story didn’t go away, and in fact became more detailed in the how and why, yet I still couldn’t believe it. Ron and Fez never did anything half-assed and….then it hit me. It is happening. They picked the one day that would stand out, the one day that would kept everyone guessing whether or not if was on the up and up. It was unique, it was different and it certainly got everyone’s attention.

In other words, classic Ron & Fez.

I didn’t know much about Ron & Fez when they came to New York other than knowing they had killed doing morning drive in Florida, (we didn’t Google yet kids). It made me wonder why a highly successful team would leave a really good situation in the Sunshine State to do a late show on a fledgling New York talk station that everyone was predicting to fail. The answer to that question led me into the wonderful mind of .

Ronnie, as he always does, saw the bigger picture and realized that whether it was late, overnight or on a weekend, you were still on the air in the number 1 market and that was all that mattered. He jumped on the dot com boom early and branded the show, ‘Ron & Fez Dot Com’, knowing it would be the hook to draw you into their super quick style of comedy.

The first thing that impressed me about the show right out of the box was that they didn’t fall into the trap that hurts a lot of shows new to the New York market.

I’m proud to say that I was there the night of their first show on WNEW (which, if I’m not mistaken, fell on a Leap Year). At the time, WNEW ran live shows during the day, and syndicated programs at night. I board op’ed the 7-11pm, so I was there to help them get familiar with everything. Ron was particularly impressed with the WNEW CD library that was still in the studio and we bonded quickly because we shared similar tastes in music. The first thing that impressed me about the show right out of the box was that they didn’t fall into the trap that hurts a lot of shows new to the New York market: They made little or no reference to the fact they were from out of town. They just jumped right in like it was just another day, another show and they were here all of their lives. I promised myself to listen to the first hour, which I did. At first, I didn’t quite know what to make of it. It sounded like more like a conversation than a radio show, but a conversation that anyone could leap into at any given moment.

In other words, like real, down to Earth people. And it was funny. Really funny.

You didn’t want to miss a show – you felt as though you really missed something if you did. Ron would say these things that were so cerebral, thought-provoking and multi-layered, I would find myself still musing on it for days. Then Fez would say these lines that would slice and dice you so hard, you didn’t even realize how many times he just comically cut you up. Put those two things together, it was comedy gold – especially when you add all of the characters that makes up the New York late night audience.

How Ron managed to centerfield all of the nuttiness with a straight face is a testament to his genius.

Here’s how you know your show is off the chain: When other shows on the station – outside of doing required promos – talk about how good your show. This happened on O&A, The Radio Chick, Don & Mike, on and on. Anthony Cumia liked the show so much that he would come on and do segments, if not the entire show! Those shows were like Comedy All-Star games – the best of the best at their best. I still laugh to the point of peeing on myself thinking about when Rutger Hauer appeared on the show: Beyond madness! How Ron managed to centerfield all of the nuttiness with a straight face is a testament to his genius. But it also made me realize just how amazing an interviewer Ron was. It was loose, free wheeling, yet informative, and easy going and guests LOVE him. To this day, I’ll put Ronnie B up against any of the talking heads on TV and on radio. Its not even close.

When the 9/11 attacks crushed New Yorkers and the nation, Ron & Fez nursed us through our anger, fears and, in time, make it ok to laugh again. Ron was able to ask hard questions about ‘where do you go as a country’ without sounding judgmental or condescending; he offered comfort

Every single person that I met in the business – New York, Florida, D.C., Philly, L.A., you name it – had nothing but kind words about Ron & Fez. That is REALLY rare and a strong testament to them as professionals and as people.

to those who directly lost love ones and was a steady voice in unsteady times. The show’s heart shined through and we loved them for it. It was during this time that I got to grow close with the guys and their crew and got to see up close their remarkable poise and professionalism. They never made me feel like an outsider or someone holding down the fort until things cleared themselves up. For that period of time, I was part of the team and was proud of it. I also got to see up close just what made the guys go: They never settled for good. It had to be great, it had to be excellent, it had to be top of the line or less they didn’t want it. They pushed you to be the best, because they saw your potential to be the best. It was tough, and it drove you to the brink of madness at times, but you always felt good about the results because you knew you put your absolute best behind it. Radio is a very small, tight knit group. Every single person that I met in the business – New York, Florida, D.C., Philly, L.A., you name it – had nothing but kind words about Ron & Fez. That is REALLY rare and a strong testament to them as professionals and as people.

The move to XM (later SiriusXM) became a perfect fit. The language was saltier, more open, honest and more street, playing to the show’s strengths. There were little to no time restrictions on segments: if it was hot, it could stretch into an hour and, in some cases, dominate an entire show. It also became a great platform for Ron’s exceptional interview skills, which, again, sounded more like in-depth conversations rather than your standard Q&A. This was creative people talking about the creative process that was not only interesting, it was riveting. Ron’s interviews became so popular by fans and guests, that it was spun off into two shows: Unmasked and Ron Bennington Interviews.

Fez’s struggles have been well-documented and I won’t replay them here. But I have always admired his candor, honesty and bravery in how he’s managed to confront these issues, and continue to do the show, even when he was struggling. I’ve said it in private conversation and I’ll say it publicly: Fez Whatley is the bravest man I know. This particular part of your life is ending, but I have doubt that you will be just as successful, happy and fulfilled in the next one. Love you Fezzie!

I wish everyone had someone like Ron Bennington in their lives. If you want to know what a best friend is, look at his relationship with Fez. Ron stuck by Fez through all of the personal and professional challenges, gave zero quarter to those who tried to steer him of course, and always saw the grand vision on air and off. This marks a new life chapter for him as well, but I have no doubt at all that he would build.

I could go on and on, but instead I will just say thank you Ron & Fez. Thank you for the Spy Reports, Fezzatorials, and Comedy Pyramids. Thank you for helping me look outside myself and seeing things in a much broader context. Thank you for making me laugh so hard at times that I couldn’t breathe. You are family to the end.

The Ron & Fez may be coming to an end, but it will always be the best thing going…..TODAY! WOOOOOOO!

See ya!

Here’s the legendary Black Earl song, a fan favorite, written and performed by Brother Joe.

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Earl Douglas is a writer/photographer based in New York City. A frequent contributor to The Interrobang, Earl is also Executive Director for the New York chapter of The Black Rock Coalition. Earl worked in radio for nearly two decades at WNEW-FM and XM Satellite Radio, which included being the on-air producer for Carol Miller, Scott Muni and Ron & Fez, and a contributor to Opie & Anthony. Earl has also independently published a number of books including Black Rock Volume 1, Urban Abyss, Mobile Uploads, and For Shimmy. His latest project is the photojournalism magazine PRAXIS, which is available exclusively through Blurb.com.

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  1. Busy1

    April 7, 2015 at 10:08 am

    Well said…..

  2. Rerand

    April 7, 2015 at 10:35 am

    It must be a testament to Black Earl’s blissful innocence that he still doesn’t get that he was the retard Ron & Fez were teasing…. but good on ya, you 45 year old Nubian virgin.  Rock on, Sapphi!

  3. KnifeClub

    April 7, 2015 at 11:03 am

    Good read, even though I’m in the camp that thinks Fez will be back in some form or another next Monday here’s hoping Ron’s new show has room for a certain black-clad, Tums-chewing, no-skiing, office-living, picture slowly-hanging producer.

  4. The RandF Workhorse

    April 7, 2015 at 11:11 am

    You gotta love Earl, still can’t get anything right.
    After reading “(we didn’t Google yet kids)” I thought that sounded odd.  I was in college in 2000 and remember using Google.  So I looked up when Google became the most popular search engine:

    On June 26, 2000, Google made two major announcements.

    First, it had become the largest search engine in the world in terms of pages indexed. Google’s results had become so accurate and so popular (it was now the second most popular search engine on the Internet, only behind Yahoo) that it was impossible to ignore.

    Second: The first major portal to switch from its own search engine to Google was Yahoo.

    Poor Earl. Is this worth fainting over?

  5. YotaruVegeta

    April 7, 2015 at 11:34 am

    “45 and I’ve never been laid.”

  6. The RandF Workhorse

    April 7, 2015 at 11:39 am

    *By someone not on a weekend pass from the nut hut

  7. Silverfeesh

    April 7, 2015 at 12:51 pm

    pretty funny Earl started working the board 7-11 and now is working at a 7-11  play those numbers earl

  8. Saskopite

    April 7, 2015 at 1:31 pm

  9. Saskopite

    April 7, 2015 at 1:33 pm

    “This particular part of your life is ending, but I have doubt that you will be just as successful, happy and fulfilled in the next one. Love you Fezzie!”
    Has Earl been the editor of the ibang this whole time? Why would you have doubts that fez will be successful, happy and fulfilled Earl?
    Touching words nonetheless.

  10. Captain Geech

    April 7, 2015 at 2:20 pm

    Earl, you are, and always have been, clown shoes. I have 159 GB og R&F shows of you doing absolutely nothing for years. yeah, it was funny, but it was still failure. I blame people like you for helping fan Todd’s crazy fires when he really needed help the most. Fuck off.

  11. cdestey

    April 7, 2015 at 2:25 pm

    Saskopite Jokes on you. There’s nobody editing this shit.

  12. cal5000

    April 7, 2015 at 4:49 pm

    Earl the bravest guy you know says he is gay yet is terrified of putting a cock in his mouth. Seems like hes a true homophobe.

  13. sodaman

    April 7, 2015 at 5:10 pm

    Isnt this the guy who couldnt hang a picture?…

  14. Don The Hypnotist

    April 7, 2015 at 6:22 pm

    I think one of my best bits was everybody hypnotized to be part of Black Earls family….:)

  15. Haunter609

    April 7, 2015 at 7:07 pm

    Not even Close to the best Black Earl song

  16. Haunter609

    April 7, 2015 at 7:09 pm

    i i i had iiiii it i i i i i

  17. morefaves

    April 7, 2015 at 10:35 pm

    Thanks Earl.  You were a big part of some of the greatest, most underrated radio NYC has ever experienced with R & F.

  18. Silverfeesh

    April 8, 2015 at 12:46 pm

    Pappy Earl goin to tell you the story of Ron and Fez backs in the 2 and the triple naughts

  19. Bill Glass

    April 9, 2015 at 10:12 am

    Blurred lines.

  20. Dwayne Hoover

    April 9, 2015 at 10:19 pm

    Good piece, Sapphire.

  21. Bart

    April 10, 2015 at 8:19 am

    Even though Black Earl’s comments (and even the Interrobang intro has a miscue) are rife with mistakes (and who the hell cares that they started at WNEW on a leap year in 2000) he is still the best writing restaurant host I’ve ever seen!
    The only time I had to stop listening to the show was towards the end of Earl’s run. I just couldn’t handle listening to someone be so incompetent on a daily basis.