Andy Kindler Takes on Jerry Seinfeld in His Annual State of the Industry Address


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Dr. Jonathan Katz intro’ed his friend ’s annual State of the Industry Speech.  Kindler’s been taking on the industry’s sacred cows for nearly 20 years at the Montreal Just for Laughs Festival and it’s always a major event.

If you there’s someone who has seemed a little too exalted, a little too beloved, come August, Kindler will tell you what’s wrong with them. He doesn’t just stick to the comedy super heros, anyone can be a target, and this year Kindler took down a lot of people.  , , feminism, Antman, Ballers, , , , all got mentions mingled with plenty of shtick, references to his recent New York Times article and some self deprecating humor about his disappointment in not having a bigger audience.  But it was Jerry who had Kindler’s focus.

We talked to Kindler just after he finished this years State of the Industry Address.  Here’s what we we learned.

  • Kindler thinks he did a great job this year.  “I’m very hard on myself normally and I know that it went well this year.  I don’t want to tell people that its a hard job, like a real job, like flying a jet plane. or operating a thing.  But this one, it’s hard to do because its written and you can’t fit it all in, so I kind of am editing on the fly. Part of its reading and part of its not so I really felt good about how I navigated all of that.”

  • Kindler takes notes all year round to prepare for his annual address when he’s not busy procrastinating. “This is an issue I have.  I have addictions. Currently my addiction is twitter and arguing with people. If it wasn’t twitter it would be tv. I do work on it all year in a way but then I procrastinate and them I’m on my own back all the time. But i do, from the day after the previous years festival– and actually doing this festival taught me  when you write an idea down to actually date the idea.  So anything after a certain date I use for the following year.
  • The Seinfeld thing was pretty much good luck.  “It got that way because– and I just lucked out on it– I knew it would be the meat of it. I didn’t know how long I would do on it. Like last year I did Anthony Cumia, and I kind of felt at some point– you know I ended with all those tweets he wrote and them I’m like, well why is the crowd not laughing? Well they’re, it’s not funny. So that was like a little bit of a downer, but I kind of quickly forget every year cause you can only do the best you can.  This year I felt like it all flowed so well, so the Seinfeld stuff was just perfect. And it also brought up the whole other issue of free speech.”

 

Here are some of the highlights, lowlights or nolights of this year’s speech.

Andy Kindler Calls for James Corden to step down.  “You have to be like Jimmy Fallon. Song and dance man. You have to be able to do a potato sack race with Cameron Diaz. You have to be able to make it go viral. I can’t even get my viruses to go viral! So James Corden, it’s terrible what’s happened. He can’t host.  He doesn’t even know why he’s hosting!  Nobody knows who you are, you don’t know who you are James Corden. Step down now.”  Time stamp: 18:30.

Kindler makes fun of Adam Sandler, setting up the way he thinks someone might pitch a movie idea to Sandler. “I think Adam Sandler doesn’t even wait till the whole idea is pitched…okay it’s a video game for the… Yes!” Adam Sandler movies have more twists and turns than a straight hallway.”  Time stamp 31:00.

Pete Holmes new elevator show where he did a talk show in the hotel elevator really annoyed Andy. “How about next year do the staircase show? It took me nine hours to get to my room. It’s a funny premise, why can’t it be in a stairway that’s not accessible to anyone else in the hotel. Why don’t you do it in the 9-1-1 area.  I don’t know what that would have been but oowwww I was on it.”  36:00

Addressing ’s big P.C. controversy, Kindler took the audience moment through moment of what actually happened– nothing.  “Nothing happened. This is the biggest pile of bullshit. It’s a made up story. If you want to have  discussion about political correctness fine, but don’t make up a phony story about it and get Bill Maher going.” Kindler said the whole thing was stupid and all started because two people told Jerry they don’t like performing at colleges. Since Jerry doesn’t play colleges, that should have ended the entire conversation.  But it didn’t. “By the way, he doesn’t play colleges because they won’t accommodate his private plane; they won’t helicopter him in. Remember he’s a multi-billionaire so we have to be concerned about his take.”   Kindler mocked Seinfeld using the best-worst Seinfeld impression anyone’s ever heard which at times has some Paul McCartney undertones to it.  Kindler, by the way says he’s a huge Seinfeld man– at least he’s a fan of the show.  He kind of thinks Seinfeld the guy is an arrogant prick.

At this point, Kindler’s just warming up and addresses Seinfeld’s “gay french king bit” that hasn’t been getting laughs lately.  “It’s not that funny. They’re not hating it cause you’ve offended them. It’s not that funny.”  Kindler suggested Seinfeld try taking a risk.  “What if Lenny Bruce was like, ‘oh I wanted to talk about how religions have become a corporation but that lady looks upset, I can’t.’  Lenny Bruce died because they harassed him to death. You’ve suffered nothing Jerry, nothing.  If it wasn’t for the Seinfeld show, believe me he would not be in the stand up hall of fame.  And I only say that cause I’m angry cause I do enjoy his stand up as well. But the point is he hasn’t taken a risk in his life, There’s no risk. You’re not the risk guy.”  He advises Jerry to just let the gay french king bit go.  It’s not a good bit.

Where is the tragedy? he asked. All these people whining, who is suffering for their art?  There’s plenty more Seinfeld, jump to 37:00 to hear it all.

You can listen to the entire hour long State of Comedy address right here.

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20 Comments

  1. casedot

    July 25, 2015 at 3:40 am

    I think overall he is terrible, but I will agree that Jerry comes off as a billionaire debutante.

  2. RobC423

    July 25, 2015 at 7:44 am

    This guy stinks…  Andy couldn’t fill a fucking staircase.

  3. Captain Geech

    July 25, 2015 at 1:23 pm

    This is the same guy that didn’t understand Gervais humor right?

  4. lethargicj

    July 25, 2015 at 2:30 pm

    The first time I ever heard of him was when he trashed Anthony. I never heard his name again until now. I would love to join in bashing the guy but I have no idea who this person is or why he’s giving speeches at a comedy show.

  5. Hohenhiem

    July 25, 2015 at 6:06 pm

    Andy Kindler is the Jeffrey Ross of Just for Laughs.
    Works all year for his big speech then tomorrow starts preparing for next years event.

  6. Beer

    July 25, 2015 at 6:21 pm

    Andy kindler is a turd

  7. CakehornJr

    July 25, 2015 at 7:55 pm

    Andy Kindler is to comedy what AIDS is to Black Privilege.

  8. MikeDavid3

    July 25, 2015 at 10:20 pm

    Is there a video version of this?

  9. @JWedbetter

    July 26, 2015 at 8:31 am

    The 1st time I heard Kindle was on an HBO special of young comedians in the 1980s. He said something about the train to Stuttgart.
    The 2nd time I heard of him was when he criticized Ant. That’s a BIIIIG gap, there bucko.
    Not to be mean…but he’s an unfunny cunt.

  10. DonnieIris

    July 26, 2015 at 9:02 pm

    Kindler is hysterical.

  11. Albedo

    July 27, 2015 at 12:13 am

    It’s funny because it’s true..

  12. Stradial

    July 27, 2015 at 11:06 pm

    Bitter + Jealous + Loser + Old + Failure + Unknown + Jealous (I know it’s listed twice, but he’s really jealous) + Sad + Worthless = Andy Kindler

  13. orangeframpton

    July 28, 2015 at 7:29 pm

    Who edits this rag article?

  14. orangeframpton

    July 28, 2015 at 7:30 pm

    @Stradial You obviously fail to get his comedy or have no idea the kind of comedian he is. If you did, you would know why he is invited back to do this very bit every year.

  15. orangeframpton

    July 28, 2015 at 7:45 pm

    @JWedbetter Not to be mean? What a pussy. How could that be said without mean overtones? If you are going to call someone an unfunny cunt, own it. Kindler would want it that way. Stop being a pussy.

    The first time I heard of you was now. The second time was never again. That doesn’t mean you weren’t doing anything in between does it? Just because I am not aware of it?

  16. Stradial

    July 28, 2015 at 8:03 pm

    I know funny and this loser isn’t funny.
    Not even sure you could call him a professional.
    Then again, I’m not a 14 yr old kid.

  17. orangeframpton

    July 28, 2015 at 8:07 pm

    @Stradial That’s why he’s been doing it for 20 years at this festival and successful comedians still come to see him do it. Because comedians don’t know what funny is and they are all 14 yr old kids.

  18. Captain Geech

    July 28, 2015 at 8:53 pm

    orangeframpton No idea Andy.

  19. Stradial

    July 30, 2015 at 1:07 pm

    orangeframpton Let me put it in terms you can perhaps understand.
    Making the frat boys in your dorm laugh doesn’t make you funny.
    If the man was truly funny, he would not have to do a once a year, for 20 years, speech in order to be known.
    Just because the frat boys think he is funny, it doesn’t make him funny.
    In fact, there are very few funny people in comedy today.
    So get F of my back and go smoke another joint and ask your mommie to make you some lunch.

  20. Comicface

    August 23, 2015 at 6:24 am

    I’ve watched Andy Kindler when he does stand up that isn’t just complaining about other things. When he does that, he’s actually very good. His current state of the industry itself is meant to be a poking fun of the industry itself. The speech is supposed to be in itself an hour long stand up routine. It could take upwards to three months to write about the past year of stand up, comedy, the industry itself and where it stands right now in society. I respect the man’s intelligence, which if you watch his older stuff, IS there. His recent stuff is also clever. 

    However, I do agree with Jerry Seinfeld on this situation, however TO AN EXTENT. The crowd Seinfeld complained about is primarily a college crowd that a lot of comedians feel like they need to break out into, to make a stronger impression in a student’s mind so that when they see them outside the campus in a comedy club, the good PR will further allow them momentum to become more well known. And at one point, the college campuses WEREN’T entirely PC focused. However, back then colleges didn’t pour a lot of money into getting entertainers to keep students around to keep pouring money into the college.

    This problem isn’t about comedy. This problem is about colleges making comedians think they’re where big money is, and that’s where you need to go. Too bad college folk are so extremely desiring that they want you to be an unoffensive yuck yuck maker with zero ‘colorful’ moments in humor. Doing comedy in a comedy club still allows them to do humor we’d expect, from folks like Daniel Tosh, Anthony Jeselnik, even Larry the Cable Guy, Colin Quinn, and Chris Rock. 

    Young comics, comedy writers, and actors, need mentors to show them that these colleges are not where they’re going to be their big leagues. But there will be other comics who point to where they get 2-5k a show, for 30-60 minutes of unoffensive humor. You can see where this argument in turn, becomes a game of “Who’s actually right here?” where the player is a young comic who isn’t sure he’s going to get the right choice until years from now.

    Jerry Seinfeld’s proclivities and his dislike of not being pampered are actual things, and they are his own hangups that are frankly ridiculous. but the issue of young comics having trouble figuring out what to do, is the real issue.