UPDATE: As of Monday January 13, 2013 the New York Film Critics Circle Voted to kick Armond White out of the Critics Circle. Agree with their decision? Disagree with their decision? Want them to debate Armond? Let the chairman know. @joshrothkopf.
Armond White put out a challenge to debate anyone and everyone who has been spreading lies in the media about him (he calls some of them, the mean girls, more on that below). He stopped by the SiriusXM studios this week to talk with Ron Bennington about what he refers to as the libelous mis-reportings that are being spread about him.
Armond made headlines this week when Variety reported that he had heckled Harry Belafonte and director Steve McQueen during the annual New York Film Critics Circle Dinner. In the interview with Bennington, White made it clear that he would “never ever ever ever heckle or say f*ck you to Harry Belafonte” and added that Harry Belafonte is a “hero” and “a great talent” who he respects immensely. Nor did he heckle Steve McQueen. The film circle, it seems, does not believe him. After the alleged incident, New York Film Critics Circle Chairman Joshua Rothkopf quickly wrote a letter of apology to Fox Searchlight Film Company, in which he said that he would pursue disciplinary action against White. Rothkopf has scheduled a meeting on Monday January 13, to decide what further action to take regarding the incident.
These actions have put Rothkopf at the top of Armond’s list of people he calls his enemies. According to White, Rothkopf “never knew what he was doing in the first place and so he’s allowed this recent controversy to get all out of hand.” He calls Rothkopf deceitful, and is disappointed that “instead of coming to me as the chairman, and trying to get in front of the situation and assess all that happened, he simply believed the libelous misreporting of Variety. “ White also referred to Rothkopf’s letter of apology to Fox Searchlight “shameful and embarrassing.”
“From my perspective, being a journalist is a career and a profession of integrity and a certain amount of fortitude that a journalist needs to have. And in film journalism, you don’t kowtow to the publicist. And this guy—without assessing the facts, he simply went ahead and wrote a letter of apology to the publicist which I think is unheard of. But also I think it damages the profession of film critics and film journalists because it simply says, we are here to shill for you. We are here to please the publicist. And for the critic, for a journalist to do anything that’s done to appease or kowtow or apologize to the publicist—apologize for things that don’t need an apology—shameful.”
Was this a lie too? https://twitter.com/vrizov/status/420368642136481793
If anyone actually listens to these interviews you'd hear that Armond is thoughtful and bright and has a unique perspective. You can not corrupt or influence him with promises perks. And he never does anything just to make more people like him. He has ideals principles and a moral code.What else could you want from a journalist?
I won't go see a movie if he doesn't give it a good review. As a result, I never saw Inglorious Basterds or The Departed, but I've seen every Adam Sandler Flick.
He does realize he is a film critic right? It's not like he is curing cancer or fighter for the oppressed
What exactly would be the content of this proposed debate, other than to legitimize someone who seems to be, by any other definition, a contrarian troll? If I was looking to validate myself within the scope of, say, the US presidency, I'd challenge Hillary Clinton and Chris Christie to a debate on international diplomacy. Never mind that I'd be utterly destroyed; the mere fact that I got two of the biggest political figures in America to agree to a debate with me would be validating enough.
Armond White is one of those people who is famous NOT for the thing he does (writing film criticism) but for repeatedly saying awful, attention-getting things. Have you ever read his film criticism? It reads like a second-semester freshman's Intro to Film essay: wordy, full of half-baked thoughts, and generally unreadable.
Here is a portion of a randomly picked Armond White piece:
"These virtues had become mythic with such actors as Robert Mitchum, Glenn Ford, William Holden, Steve McQueen, modernized with the 80s exploits of Schwarznegger-Willis-Stallone, then overlooked with the millennial snark of Clooney, Pitt, Damon.
Moviegoers related to Walker’s average American casualness–his lack of swagger gave his surfer-blond looks adaptable elegance: he was refreshingly urban as the chase-film franchise Fast and Furious made evident (and profitable) but particularly in his best films, Chazz Palminteri’s lovely, poignant Christmastime love story Noel (playing a cop whose anger issues threaten his marriage to Penelope Cruz–the most gorgeous movie couple imaginable) and Wayne Kramer’s awesome thriller Running Scared (a bold look at the contemporary chaos of crime, immigration and the scourge of Methamphetamine–the movie that should have armed our culture against the lies and mediocrity of Breaking Bad)."
His first paragraph not only uses passive voice (a big faux pas for writers), but also uses three different ways of listing actors to prove his point (first name last name comma; last name hyphen; last name comma). I know it seems petty, but writers are (or should be) obsessed with these little touches of consistency.
His second paragraph is, quite simply, unreadable garbage. He uses over-wrought language like "adaptable elegance" and "refreshingly urban" in a too-long sentence filled with primary thoughts which go off into secondary thoughts, parenthetic thoughts, hyphenate thoughts, etc...all while managing to accuse Breaking Bad of somehow glorifying the usage of Methamphetamine (big M, for some reason).
Say what you want about Armond White, but he is simply not a good writer or film critic. Having widely contrarian views is not inherently offensive; being wildly ineffective in one's arguments and then whining and punching the ground because more people don't agree with you is.
Armond White's the real deal...and a personal hero for calling out so much bullshit.....not only in film, but American culture.
i wonder if @MCSerchcould help keep this real.
I dunno man, he seems pretty sharp to me. I think he went to Harvard too or one of those really smart schools. I'd love to see this happen.
@K DubyaI like that he cant take peoples critique of his character.
@gentrifythisI never said he wasn't. In fact, that's exactly what I said. I said he is famous for saying (purposely) incendiary things. Like a provocateur would. So in that regard, we agree.
He also got five paragraphs out of me, not eight. Two were his, and one sentence of mine is not a paragraph.
Regarding your original post, I don't see any of what you're seeing in this guy, unless 'caller of bullshit' includes people who consider Grown Ups "a humanist work of art."
No snark, fella.
@gentrifythis you nailed it
@gentrifythis So when he says the other black guy isn't black because “he doesn’t show solidarity” he's calling out bullshit? Or is he manufacturing it?