Those goddamn gays are so one dimensional. Everything centers around their sexuality. The truth is that most people dont give a fuck. Why would they want a cake from someone who clearly doesnt want to bake them one?
Baker Forced To Make Same-Sex Wedding Cake
A Colorado judge has ruled in favor of a gay couple who were denied a wedding cake by a local baker who refused to serve them due to his religious beliefs. This ceremony is so lovely, but does this cake taste like it was baked really angrily?
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It's unfortunate that this has to be settled by a corrupt and broken judicial system. That being said, for people to continue to justify their ignorance, fear and distaste on superstitious nutbaggery and expect everyone to go along with their delusion is worse.
I think it would be funny if somehow it has be overlooked that gays once married cant get a divorce and it had to be this whole even worse struggle to fight for their right to not have your life legally entwined with this awful person any more.
So if you're Jewish and own a frame shop and a neo nazi brings in a WWII souvenir German flag to frame you can't send him packing?!
The couple has also filed suit against their butcher. Oddly enough, they have been friends with the candlestick maker for years.
Did they put their wedding off for a few years while our swift legal system debated whether or not the couple could have their cake and eat it too?
The ACLU is a shitbag organization for supporting the gays in this case. The baker deserves to have his name spread across town and defamed for his religious beliefs but he has the right to work or not work however he sees fit. He is not a slave.
Well, he isn't SUPPOSED to be a slave. This is absolutely disgusting.
Can this really be legal? Doesn't a private business have the right to serve who they want? Shit, what's become of us?
This is why Americans don't improve their conditions all the shit we should fight for would require tooth and nail protesting. Instead we pretend the photo above is an edgy protest. Yuck.
I'm 110 per fucking cent for gay rights, gay marriage, gay equality, and everything else. Anyone who isn't is simply on the wrong side of history. That said, take the fucking hint faggots: he doesn't want to bake you a cake. Guess you'll have to go to one of the million other bakers in Denver. You're not at the goddamn lunch counter in 1963; you're a couple of braindead dickbag yuppies who didn't get their way.
@Badger1225 It generally comes down to whether the customer in question is part of a Suspect Class. For example, as I can't imagine how you haven't noticed, a diner in the south cannot refuse to sell coffee to black people. I don't know the specifics of whether and/or in what circumstances a group defined by sexual orientation is considered a Suspect Class by the federal government, but I'm sure you could find out quickly by doing some research on the internet.
@Grandma Tarkin Yes w.r.t. there's no good argument for this guy having to bake them a cake. No w.r.t. gay marriage, from a civics perspective. No marriage should be recognized by the state, whether straight or gay. If we want to define some sort of civil union that affects taxes and visitation rights, fuck yeah. Let's have that debate and determine whether such benefits make sense.
But marriage should be entirely up to churches, and they should be allowed to marry whoever the fuck they want. And get absolutely no fucking breaks from the government, because fuck churches when it comes to civics.
@Grandma Tarkin Who the fuck would eat a cake or any food prepared by someone who was forced to make it for you? Good luck with that special sauce, Bitch!
Thanks! I bet the shorter contract helps Sirius, because mental health is medical and they don't want to fire directly and get a lawsuit ,...
I will never forgive fez for putting in his two cents in on the jay morh podcast, that was Patrice's last interview I think, and jay and Patrice both love Ron , and I think even if not same interview, he would have upped their games ...
Remember , Patrice had been wanting to stay for Ron and fez but wasn't sure if he could, I would trade fez for one episode of Ron and Patrice ...
I am angry with fez for not taking Ron's sobriety into account, this much stress......
Fez's irrational narcissistic behavior was solved with a shorter contract, somehow. I don't know what the over/under is but I give it 2 weeks, max, before the advice show is back.
@hackcomic Search for "ron & fez moving to raw dog" on youtube to listen to it.
@hackcomic The Ron and Fez show are leaving the Opie and Anthony Channel and moving the show to RawDog Comedy channel. Fez has promised to pull his shit together and signed some sort of short term contract that runs up in April and he will then be evaluated by management to see if he has made enough changes to continue working for XM. Then Fez did an agonizingly long Nature Boy impression to 'prove' that he was back.
@DrunkEpiphany Race is subject to Suspect Classification. Sexual orientation is not. So legally, currently, your claim is nonsense.
That's not to say I think that's the way things should be. I'm actually not really sure who's right here. I'd like to talk to the individuals involved in the situation.
I'm with you up to the point of "no breaks from government", churches are exempt from most government control including taxes for the same reason the government should be exempt from church control. You can't let one come in and dictate how the other operates without expecting the other to attempt the same. I've always wondered why religious people were so angry over 'gay marriage', when in fact there should be, as you say, no civil 'marriage'. They demand the government stipulate what's a marriage yet if the government decided to start civil baptisms or bar mitzvahs they would lose their shit over the intrusion.
@jasonhathaway @hackcomic I was wondering too. Although I have XM, they said the announcement was going to be at noon. Of course, Fez didn't show up then and I had to get back to work. Another bit that didn't pay off (for me anyway). I'm moving off that channel more and more. Streaming podcasts has been working out for me pretty well. There is a shit load of good ones out there.
@hackcomic The move happens January 6th.
You have the ability to singlehandedly deny someone's liberty? How impressed you are with yourself. Why would I be concerned how you managed to fear religion? It's adorable.
Are you concerned that my "fear of religion" is unjustified? Or that I will deny the liberty of others based on my beliefs and or opinions?
@Badger1225 @LabKeith I'm with you. In both respects, I think. I live in Berkeley so I'd probably commit crimes for more gay/bi/lesbian people than most iBangers, just because I'm around enough of them to have enough best friends who are them. If anybody ever said a bad word about any of them I'm capable of making a bigot's life pretty bad.
I also eat Chik-Fil-A and love that they take a stand about their beliefs. My family are fundamentalist evangelical Christians and they are Hands Down the most compassionate, accepting people I've ever met. Despite the fact that they believe homosexuality to be a sin. They probably have more gay friends who would hide them from the cops than most gay people I've met in my life.
This kind of thing is complicated, and while it's easy to pass judgement on one side or the other, it's far more productive to talk to the individuals involved, on both sides, and try to find out how we can all be people together. In my experience, at least.
@BallPeenHammer I spoke poorly - you're correct. Churches themselves can be given a break. The people they choose to put through their marriage rite should not be given a break. Any "couples' benefits" should be entirely tied to civics and divorced from religious observances.