They should just designate smoking areas and not completely ban smoking. I'm a non smoker by the way.
Going to College in New York Just Got a Lot Worse
It’s been announced that smoking will be banned on all New York State College campuses by 2014. At all New York City College campuses, the smoking ban comes into effect this fall. So, if you want to go to an affordable college in the state of New York, you can’t smoke. If you want to get a higher education, you can’t smoke. Your rights are not slowly being taken away anymore, they’re being taken at a blistering rate.
Hey America! Your balls are beyond busted. That’s right, no smoke in between classes for you students. Even though you’re on college campuses that are on city streets. Get ready rest of the country. Get ready to climb into the matrix pods now so you can just exist long enough to die.
Read more at newyork.cbslocal.com.
Why not just make Cigarettes and Cigars Illegal......Oh that's right Politicians need the Tobacco Companies Campaign Contributions. So no 20 oz soda and No Smoking at NYU...At least they still have Chocolate Donuts
Hip Hip Hipochracy. They Tax the sh*t out of a pack of Cigarettes, They Claim the extra money will be used for Anti Smoking Programs.....I smoked for 45 years and it was the hardest thing to Quit, but I would never tell anybody to stop if they don't want to. You not just make Cigarettes Illegal.....Oh that's right Politicians need their campaign contributions
How is this worse for anybody wanting to go to college in NY? NY bars and restaurants started to make a lot more money when the smoking ban went into effect like 10 years ago. I don't patronize establishments that permit smoking, but that is much choice. I've read the US Constitution multiple times as well as case law on the subject and can not find anywhere in there where it mentions the right to smoke. So these and any other smoking bans are not taking away any of your rights.
Besides where were all of you people who are crying about your "right" to smoke being taken away when your actual RIGHT to keep and bare arms has been slowly taken away. Maybe if you would have stood up to the gov't then, you might have some more help on your side, not to mention its a lot harder for the gov't to control the citizens when they're armed - the gov't is supposed to be controlled by the citizens, not the other way around. The 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution is what is supposed to keep it this way - its also the only way to keep a gov't in check and in power solely for the benefit of the people.
Now of course it should be up to the individual establishment whether to allow smoking on the premises or not, but a gov't that is not afraid of the citizens can do whatever it wants, just like in Syria.
If you're in a closed room, which would you rather be with...
A..) A Smoker
B.) A Running Car
C.) A Lit Grill
Fucking liberal bullshit! Daddy knows what's best for us. I'm happy in my right-leaning suburb. I'm sure I'll get shit for saying that but I'm in a safe city with very reasonable taxes and great city services and I'm left the fuck alone by my local government. Facts are facts.
I don't think I would have ever finished a paper without 5-10 smoke breaks. College kids are fucked now.
Give them one concession to make them go away, they'll want more. It won't end. I give my 3 year old two stories at bedtime, she asks for three. She'll keep asking for more until I walk out of the room, shut the door and let her cry it out.
Thank you for saving us from ourselves. Elected officials and appointees ALWAYS know what is best for us
This recently happened at Siena College in Albany (Private College)..... even with an outcry from the student body, 80% of the student population lives on campus, they said suck it up and deal with....... the alternative given: smoke in your car, or on the side of a major road.....doesn't seem like a smart idea for someone trying to have a cigarette ... on the side of a road....when they are drunk....thats safe.
I'm positive that the healthcare savings from punishing smokers is going to get passed on to the consumer. Premiums on the way down for sure now!!!!!!!!
Hicks, I agree 100% with you but if you are going to smoke with the healthcare system we have in place then you must sign a waiver that states you will not accept medical treatment when you have a stroke, heart attack, lung cancer, copd
I didn't see it in the story or a cursory search, but is this ban enforced through capital punishment, jail time, or fines?
Assuming it's fines, can't we just call this what it is: a tax? If I wanted to "ban" something I would simply execute people who continue to do it. If I wanted to make money off it, I would fine people who continue to do it and are unlikely to stop.
So we are expected to pay upwards of $200k for four years of bullshit and can't even smoke on campus. Go fuck yourselves. And fuck us for letting it happen.
Really sucks to not experience the pleasuer of smelling someones cigarette smoke when you leave a building. As nice as smelling piss in an elevator.
@cousin_dave U can't bitch about the 2nd amendment being taken away and support taking away other rights. Next thing u know they'll take away your right to drink large sodas or eat popcorn... Oh wait
@Fatchu I'll take option C... Oh! Lit gril. I thought u said little girl. My fault. I'll take option A then
@SerotoninsGone this is a ban of public colleges, so far less than 200k
@eddietirebiter heaven forbid your experience on this planet ever be infringed upon. Fucking baby.
@JfromHuntington Ok Blowhard
I'm not supporting it, I said it should be up to the individual establishments to decide if they want to ban smoking (or anything else.) If you don't like what that establishment prohibits, then take your patronage elsewhere because there will be other establishments who will cater to your specific needs. But the gov't is taking this option away.
This is only going to get worse.
Opie finally got it yesterday. They'll never stop. They are going to go after things we can't even conceive of right night: high heel shoes, lipstick, perfume, headphone, sunglasses, etc... You have to think of the gov't/bureaucracy/politicians/system how Reese described the T-800: "You can't bargain with it. You can't Reason with it. It doesn't know Pity or Remorse, or Fear... and it absolutely Will Not Stop - EVER"
Its no different than when the gov't claims they only want to raise taxes on the rich, if you're okay with that, then just realize, they will want to raise your taxes (and they will) but the rich people aren't going to help you & fight them, because you didn't tell the gov't 'NO' when they "only" wanted to raise the taxes on the rich, so why would the rich, who have more power and influence than we do, help us tell the gov't 'NO' when we were not willing to do the same?
When they came for the Jews, I didn't try to stop them or even say say no because ....
When they came for the blacks, I didn't try to stop them or even say say no because ....
When they came for the Irish, I didn't try to stop them or even say say no because ....
When they came for the Pollocks, I didn't try to stop them or even say say no because ....
When they came for the Christians, I didn't try to stop them or even say say no because ....
When they came for me, there was nobody left to stop them
If you can make your exhaled byproduct smell like a walk in an arboretum then you are welcome to sit next to me on an airplane and knock yourself out. But cigarette smoke is every bit as bad a smell as cat piss or rotten garbage. So why should one smoker have the right to ruin the air for 20 non smokers? Part of the pleasure of smoking or riding a Harley with straight pipes must be passive aggressively giving the finger to everyone in the general vicinity, right? Well don’t expect us to fight for your rights on this one.
Why not on airplanes or resturants? If it's true that it dosn't harm people's health. If it is no diffrent than perfume or deodorant. Why would you erode people's right to blow smoke on their neighbors?
@eddietirebiter I don't think anyone has suggested allowing smoking on airplanes, or even in resturaunts. On the street, though? I hope you or anyone you know doesn't wear cologne or perfume, or deodorant. We all smell that, but that's "the cost of doing business", so to speak. I'm not all right with this slow erosion; maybe you are. Eventually it could come down to something you care about.